Our Desires vs God's Desires
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If you are listening to this podcast, you will be well aware and acquainted with the fact that we have lots of decisions to make throughout the span of our lifetimes. Some of those decisions will be relatively small, but a lot of these decisions can potentially be life-changing. But more often than not, these decisions aren’t “good vs bad”, they can be nuanced and difficult to decipher. The listener that submitted this week’s question is facing that sort of decision. They ask “How do I discern between what my heart wants and what God’s plan is for me?”
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Transcript
Derrick: Welcome back to Deeper Roots. We want to thank everyone for joining us again. We're back from our hiatus. We have myself, we have Ester here and we also have Pastor Luis joining us again in the new year. Today, we have a question that was submitted online, uh, by one of our lists. And the question is how do I discern between what my heart wants and what God's plan is for me, the listener also submitted their own question, their own message, which says, I constantly feel like I'm at a crossroads between things and paths in my life or I feel like either way could be what God has in store for me, like serving as a missionary or serving at my local church. How do I figure out what God wants for me without making the wrong decision? Pastor?
Pastor Luis: Good, good question. Um, first of all, just wanted wanting to welcome everyone back here to Deeper Roots.
I want to thank Derrick and Ester for continuing this ministry as well. And, um, also I know during our hiatus, some people contacted me asking me when we were going to return. So that's good to hear. That's good to hear, to get the there, you're hoping to hear from us again. So I hope that this year as we start 2022, that we're able to be a blessing to your lives as we continue answering questions that, um, you have in your heart. Uh, and also just right now, as we record, we're also going through the midst again of the COVID, uh, surge so just wanna wish everybody's health, uh, that you guys are taking care of yourselves that you guys are, uh, able to heal if you have it and be able to get through this surge real quick in our communities as well. So I'm praying for each of you.
All right. So let's get to the question. Uh, the question is how can I discern in my heart? And this is a great question, because especially with the follow up, uh, what you just read? Um, this is a person that's asking about, you know, there's sometimes there's two doors that seem to be just as good, you know, they're both, um, viable doors to walk through, uh, and you're wondering how can I make sure I make the right decision without making a mistake? And I think first of all, that's great, uh, for you to actually stop and ask this question, whoever's asked it is a great step because a lot of people today, they will make decisions, and don't even stop to wonder what God's will is.
So just want to encourage you first and foremost, by saying that I'm glad you are asking this question and that you care about not about, uh, making a mistake because a lot of people don't, and that's why they make mistakes. They don't, they don't really care about those things, but when it comes to the word heart, um, What, what are we talking about?
There's a couple of verses that come to mind, first of all, but I'll share those in a bit, but I want you guys to contribute Ester when we're thinking about heart. Right? Cause she says, uh, he or she, um, how can I discern between God's will and what my heart wants? What's the heart?
Ester: Well, I'm going to talk personally. That's what I can do with my experience. And I being a girl with a lot of emotions, it's big. I've been trained really well to be careful with my emotions, because just because you feel, it doesn't mean it's the right thing. Right? A lot of us, if we felt, you know, we went with what we felt, we'd be eating chocolate and ice cream all the time 'cause we love it. But it's not healthy for us. So I think for me, with my personality and who I am, um, I'm always cautious with my feelings because I don't just, I don't want them to take reign and take over. I've learned with time and with my personality, with who I am, I need to be careful with that and take a step back and really see what the Bible says, and, and then, you know, God's will for me. So when I think when I hear the word heart, I think of emotions that's for me. Um, but just because you feel, it doesn't mean it's the right thing. So that's my, that's my first response to that.
Pastor Luis: Yeah, it's a that you hit it right on the nail emotions. Uh, it's the center of our emotions of what we feel and everything. In the Bible, it's interesting because today we have a lot of, um, terminologies that is being, uh, used and thrown around there. You know, like I was teaching the young people on Friday about, uh, mental health and, and emotional wellbeing, you know, in the Bible, it's all wrapped up into one, which is called the inner man, right? So it's the inner man. Um, but the heart, when it refers to the heart, it's, we're talking about that emotional part of our inner man, our, our feelings, but also the inner man is the thoughts, which is the mental part as well, and our thought life and how that relates to the word and the promises and belief and unbelief and stuff like that.
So when it talks about heart talking about emotions, right? Emotions, Derrick, um, can emotions lead us astray?
Derrick: 100 percent.
Pastor Luis: All right. Why would
Derrick: 100 percent.
Pastor Luis: The question might be obvious, but, uh, just develop that for us. Why?
Derrick: When we are using our emotions to lead us, to guide our decision-making and what we want, it can definitely just make us stumble. When, uh, for example, like you use your emotions when you are seeking after a person, right? Uh, let's say the romantic interests, right? And, uh this person might not be the best person for you but your emotions get in the way and then you make, you end up making the wrong decision and it could potentially be that you let this person go because your emotions say you're scared to even make the first move or you end up being with this person and then they cause you a lot of turmoil because they weren't the right person for you. Both of which case were led by emotions. Obviously like your emotions do start off the decision-making process when it comes to this kind of stuff, but eventually you're going to have to move past your emotions and into seeing a God's will, into seeing a compatibility and more of those kinds of things, but emotions might be a good jumping off point, but you need to move, you need to start looking further than your emotions if you're going to start making the decisions.
Pastor Luis: Yeah. I think like what you just said as well, so again, uh, there can be both sides of the spectrum also when it comes to the emotions, uh, to making decisions. So like you said, fear is one an emotion. Uh, as well as uh spontaneity and not carelessness is also something just led because I want this I'll do it. It doesn't matter whether I think about or not. And either one is, again, going back to the horse, the first horse of 2022, it doesn't matter which side of the horse you fall off. It's still wrong of you're being led by emotions, whether it's fear or whether it's, uh, not even thinking about what you're going to do and just doing it off of impulse and your emotions. Uh, so let me share a couple of verses. When I think of the word heart immediately, two verses come to mind. First of all, uh, Jeremiah 17:9, um, says "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked who can know it?" and, and when you talk about unflattering language, I mean, that's pretty unflattering, you know, and the Bible says that we, our heart is deceitful when you know that it is trained in being able to lead us the wrong way to lie to us, to trick us, to make us see things that are not there, believe things that are not true. And then it says desperately wicked and that word "wicked", right, it's just corrupt that it's not able to lead us right. It's not just talking about being deceitful in the sense that okay "it leads us astray" but it's uncapable of actually leading us right, if we're led by, by our heart. And then it says who can know it. And that question is sort of a, sort of like a facetious in a way, because it's saying who can know. It was like, nobody can know it except one person, which is God. And that's why we desperately need his help. Proverbs 4:23 has the other verse. It says, "Keep your heart with all diligence, for out of it springs, the issues of life". So there, and it sort of goes with that other verse that if, if our heart is wicked,. If our heart is deceitful, then we have to be very careful in guarding it and guarding it in the sense of not just protecting what goes into it, because it also has to do, sometimes we would make the worst of decisions because we're because of the stuff we're watching on YouTube or online, what we're listening to the music we're exposing ourselves to, and it sort of, we were trained ourselves to be more and more led by emotions, by what we see and what we feel and not by what is true. And that's why it says we have to keep it. But it's also the idea of making sure that we deal with it. "Keep your heart with all diligence for out of it springs, the issues of life". If you don't guard it, if you don't, uh, have it under control or what's the other word, when you harness it. If you don't harness your heart, that's where all the issues are going to come out of. Whether good or bad, it's going to be whether it's harnessed or not. So just to start off, then we, the first thing is that we can't trust our emotions. We can't trust our heart to lead us. So then we must trust who?
Ester: God
Pastor Luis: God. So Esther, what would you advise this person? This young person I'm guessing.
Ester: Mhmm.
Pastor Luis: What's the first step then if we don't, we can't, we can't trust our heart. We can't be led by emotions. And what should we do?
Ester: I think first of all, um, is God's word is number one. I don't know, depending on this decision that they're making out a note, they're making life decisions, like who are they going to marry or they're thinking of what they're going to study or whatever it may be. I think one of the first things I personally do is, you know, look for verses in the Bible that will help me and then prayer is number one after that one, like prayer for God to open or shut doors, especially if there's already two choices. I feel those are a lot easier ones rather than the open-ended like, what am I going to do with my life? It's very different from when you have two choices, but you know, for gone to shut doors, if that's not the right thing for you, even though maybe your heart says, "yes, I want this really badly". Uh, but for him to, to shut those doors and make it very clear what the right choice is.
Pastor Luis: And Derrick, you have to, yeah. You have to give a, you have to stop the preacher in me. Because if not, I could take up the whole hour.
Derrick: I feel like I, I need to hear the question one more time.
Pastor Luis: So basically when we go, when we're talking about the hardest deceitful, we can't trust it. So then the question is what, where do we start off then if we know we can't trust. What's the first thing we should then do when we're facing a very difficult question. Okay. Number one, don't trust my heart, but then what should I do?
Derrick: I think that among, I think there are two things that you can do, and both of them are the very usual building blocks that church always tells you, which is to read the Bible and pray. We hear that so often, because like I said, they're the building blocks. You don't get a house without wood or concrete or bricks or whatever you want, you choose to use. You're going to need to pray. And you're going to need to read the Bible because both of those ways are the ways that you both calm yourself down and to get, and detach yourself from the emotions, the prayer, and also learn more about what God actually wants from, from you and your life, the Bible.
Pastor Luis: Okay. Very good. I'm going to share two verses and I, and I want you to sort of look at the patterns with any of these verses. That sort of will help our listeners to understand this is, this is a good process to go through when you're facing a decision that you don't know what to do. And especially the one that they propose there where it's two, that seemed good things. I mean, there's, there's not nothing sinful to either one, but you just don't know whether it's God's will or not. So the first one is Proverbs 3: 5-6. We all know those. It says "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean, not unto your own understanding in all your ways, acknowledge him and he shall direct your paths". So. You were there, I think on Friday, but I'm not sure if I mentioned on Friday, but anyways, uh, there's two things there, the trusting part and the leaning part. So what's the difference between those two, because that's the "trust in the Lord with all your heart" and "lean, not unto your own understanding". So what does it mean "trust" and "lean"? One is you should trust God and we should stop leaning on our own understanding. Are they the same thing, the opposites of the same thing? Or are, is there a different connotation or
Derrick: I think that,
Pastor Luis: significance to both?
Derrick: One is a very active thing that you can do to trust something, to trust someone, and the leaning is very passive is a trust is something that you need to actively do in order to, uh, uh, to put it into action. Uh, to trust if you're going to trust someone, or if you decide that you trust someone, you're going to let them into something that belongs to you, like, uh, your money or your, your life, right? Uh, whereas when you lean, it's kind of a, it's very passive, it's a lazy thing. It's, it's less effort to lean on something than it is to trust it like I'm going to lean on a wall,
Pastor Luis: Which of the two is the action though, the trusting or the leaning? An actual action, not just a thought or an exclamation of something like, uh, I could say, right. I trust someone.
Derrick: Well,
Pastor Luis: Right?
Derrick: I mean, if you lean, you can physically lean on something. That's the action.
Pastor Luis: So the is which one is, which is the action? The leaning, right?
Derrick: I'm talking about like the more active thing. That's trust and passive is leaning.
Pastor Luis: Maybe the cause and effect of what you're saying, right? Because if you trust yeah. If you trust someone, then you will lean on it. Right? So the trust is the trust. The trust is something you say or you feel, or you say I trust someone and trust is also something that you earned through experience. Right? For example, um, I've driven in your car before. Okay. So I know you can drive.
Derrick: Yes.
Pastor Luis: So I've had enough trust. I trust you that I can, if you had tell me, pastor, do you need a ride? I probably getting your car and I'll make me do the action of actually leaning on you to drive me because I need you, I need to get from point A to point B and I lean on you because I trust that you can drive. Right? And that trust is based off of past experience. And then I know you're a responsible guy and everything. You're not, you're not as speedster. So, uh, because of my,
Derrick: You don't know me
Pastor Luis: Or at least the times I've been, I've been in your car. Um, so the, the trusting part is more of an inner thing. The the, the, what's it called? The lean, that lean is the action that comes from it.
Derrick: When I was saying I kinda got it flipped, but okay. I got it. I got it.
Pastor Luis: And, and, and, and my, my question is then let's see Ester, when it comes to, when it comes to the leaning and the trusting part. Um, why is it so important for us to make that difference? Differentiation, I can't say that word in that verse? It says "Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean, not unto your own understanding"
Ester: I think from what you were connecting to what you're saying, just because you know what the right thing is, doesn't mean you're going to do it. And that's the thing, that's the step, right? Like, you know, but that doesn't mean you're going to take the action and do what is right. And that's where I feel.
Pastor Luis: And then you could also argue then is it really trust? Sorta like a, the, the argument that Peter, I mean, yeah. Peter says, no, sorry. James says faith without works is dead. Is it really faith? If you are not have no works to accompany it. So is it really trust if you're not willing to lean on it? All right. That kind of thing. Right? So it's like, um, that's important for us as human beings to sort of look at, because it's so easy to say. I trust God, I it's so easy. I trust him. I trust him, but the question that's better served for us is to see our actions and see if my actions really show a dependence on God. That I am truly depending on him. And I'm truly believing that he will show me the path and that says so trust in the Lord with all my heart and lean, not unto your own understanding. Uh, and then in all our ways acknowledge him. So that's the sort of part where we have to examine our lives and seeing is my life really one that honors God in, in trust, in my financial life, in my love life, in my marriage if your married, in my uh studies and my work ethic in my, uh, ministries at church.
Derrick: And that kind of, uh, refers to the verse that talks about in everything that you do, do for the Lord.
Pastor Luis: Do it for the Lord. Amen. And, and, and, and so when we do that, and if we're trusting and we're really learning to trust and lean on on God, then that's where the promise comes in is this, and he shall direct thy path because yeah, I agree. There's decisions that they're like, whoa, Lord, which one is it for me? And either one could be good, but you just like, like our listener said, I share that I fear, and I think it's a good thing. It's a good fear to have of making a mistake. You don't want to make a mistake. Uh, so that's where you start. And then the other passage is Romans 12: 1-2, and you sort of see the same kind of pattern there of surrendering of making sure that trust is established in God before you, then he's able to show you his will, could you read it for us, Ester?
Ester: Romans 12: 1-2 " And beseech you, therefore brethren by the mercies of God that you present your bodies, a living sacrifice. Holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service and do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God".
Pastor Luis: So again, there's an element of surrender of saying, you know, surrender your whole life, give it all as a lifted living sacrifice. And then. it says: do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. There's the leaning part where I say, look, I'm not going to lean on what my, my friends say, I'm not going to lean on what society thinks I should do. I'm not going to lean even on maybe your best friends say, uh, I'm going to lean on you. And I want to you to transform my thinking to be whatever it isn't. It, it takes a lot of, uh, a lot of courage to say, Lord, um, Please change my thinking, if I'm wrong about this, change my thinking about that. That's a good prayer to start and say, show me your path. Cause that's the promise at the end, it says: and so that you may prove what is good and perfect with the good and perfect will of God. And that's worth mentioning right there that God's will, is always going to be good. And it's always going to be perfect. And, even if the things let's be honest, uh, Derrick I'll ask you, even in the things that we know to be God's will, do we always obey?
Derrick: No, we don't.
Pastor Luis: Why? Why don't we obey them? If we know it's like, for example, there's some things we don't even have to pray about. Like, for example, should I tithe? Should I forgive my offender?
Derrick: I think we don't have, because we don't want to.
Pastor Luis: Exactly. So we don't want to, why don't we want to?
Derrick: Because it either we either don't trust it or, uh, we, uh, is not within, uh, the desires of our own hearts to do so.
Pastor Luis: Let's use the let's use, let's use the example of forgiveness. I know I should forgive, but I choose not to. We used to, like you said, I don't want to, right?
Derrick: Yeah
Pastor Luis: I don't want to, but if God's will is perfect and God's will is good. What is my disobedience claiming or what is my disobedience manifesting about me?
Derrick: What I want is more important than what God wants.
Pastor Luis: What do we always want, what is more important to us? Do we want harm? Do we want
Derrick: No.
Pastor Luis: bad? So what we're really saying at the end of the day is I don't think God is right. And if I obey him, I'm going to end up on the losing end.
Derrick: Yeah.
Pastor Luis: If I obey him, I'm not, it's not going to be good for me and it's not going to be perfect. So my way is going to be, what's going to bring me what I want, right? Which is good and perfect. According to me. So we have to trust and lean completely for him to then guide us, for him to be able to show us the things. So this is where I would also give this very practical advice to our listeners, uh, when you're facing a decision like. Our person who asked the question is going through right now. Um, make sure you are in obedience in all the known will of God. Make sure you are living a life of obedience and the things you know God is wanting you already to do, that you don't have to pray about these things that are obvious in the word of God. And then he will guide you in the specifics will of God. Then there's the revealed one, and then theres the specific one, which is different for everyone.
Derrick: And you don't need to be a, uh, like a Bible scholar in order to do this, like in the, all the known will of God. It's what you know, and you know what, you know, uh, you're not going to, uh, if there is something like in the Bible that you haven't read yet, and you didn't know that this was a sin, that's obviously something different, but that is also your responsibility to know as much as you can, but yeah.
Ester: I also believe that if it's a big decision or maybe it's your first time, you know, taking these steps, I also advise checking in with your leader because there are, hold your hand through it, like baby steps. There'll be like, okay, did you get. And you pray about it. And did you and and they'll hold your hand as you go through it and help you maybe ask the questions you need, so you can reflect and take it to prayer, you know, in your studies, whatever you're studying. I think that that could also be support for you as you make a decision.
Pastor Luis: I love that advice. It's a practical advice, um, include people to pray for you as you're making that decision. Um, and ask them to remind you of truth in those scriptures that will maybe lean you one way or another, right? And it's, it's very important to take that step, I think, to share decisions with other people so that they can pray with you and help you know exactly what God's will is for your life. Another practical thing I would also add is you mentioned open doors and closed doors. Uh, you and. There's two other elements. I would say too, when, when trying to discern God's will, if you're already leaning on him, trusting him in all your ways, you're letting him renew your, your mind according to his will. And then now you're facing this decision. Look for two things, like you said, open and closed doors, number one, and then peace. Peace in your heart about the decision. Um, when it comes to open and closed doors. My advice always is this, when you're facing choice A and choice B, be honest with yourself and ask yourself, is there one that my heart is leaning towards? You know? And that means is there one that I desire more than the other? And be honest about it, maybe it's do I go to this school or do I go to this school, which is God's will for me. And maybe you say, well, "I'd really like to go to this one because of the friends and blah, blah, but this one has this" But, and you have this decision and maybe you already know which one your heart wants, but you want to make sure that God approves, right? So then my advice is start praying against that one. And what I mean by that is just saying, Lord, you know, I want this one. For example, I want to go to Yale, but Stanford's here too, you know, but at Yale is really the one I want, but God, if it's not your will, please block it. Please do something. Show me something that will show me that this is not for me, even though I want it. I ask you Lord to please block it. I, maybe some people use the word I give you permission God, you know, that sounds weird. But what you're saying is God, please, I'm asking you to interfere. I'm asking you to interfere some way or somehow just show me, this is not the place for me. And that takes guts because we don't like to pray against things we want. We we'd like to pray for the things we want. Right. But it's a good, healthy habit to do. And then the second thing when it comes to, uh, peace, um, that's another thing that you can say, "Lord, please take away my piece about one of the other". You know, don't give me peace. Even if it's the one I want and things keep going, but there's no peace. Maybe that's the way God is leaning. And those are two very good indicators at where God is leading you.
Derrick: I did want to address a couple of things that I noticed about the question. So this person was also talking about specifically, like, missionary or serving at my local church. This is something that I've actually been dealing with a lot myself, because I've been thinking, do I want to stay here at my local church? Or do I want to go serve at Wolf mountain? Right. It's not necessarily the same thing as missionary work, but it does involve going away for a mission field. So one of the things I do want to bring up is, is there other parts of your life that are affecting this decision? Like, is it your home life that makes you want to go away? Or is it your comfort here that makes you want to stay? Is it the fear of leaving home or leaving your home church that prevents you from going to the mission field? Or is it the fact that you're comfortable here at home? Uh, or, yeah. So are you comfortable here at home, and you don't want to go out to the mission field or the other way around. I can't come up with the opposite of that situation, but I think you understand what I mean, analyze it your life, you know, your life. I don't know your life. We don't know your life, but take a look and take a good, honest, look at yourself and see, is there something else in my life that is affecting this decision? And can I isolate this decision on its own? It's much easier said than done. You're going, if you're anything like me, you're going to start saying, oh, I want this. Oh no, but this, but this, but this, but this, I mean, you can say that about both sides and it's something that I'm actually still struggling with myself. So this question actually really resonates with me too. So just remember that you, you're not as simple as this decision. You have a whole bunch of things going on in your life that you in your best interest need to address, and God is going to be there. And he's going to be the one guiding that decision and opening the doors and closing those doors. And if you really want to go to be in the mission field, pray against it. If you really want to stay home, pray against it. And then God will open and close those doors as He sees fit.
Pastor Luis: Yeah. And that's, um, there's one more point I want to touch on, but what you're saying there is true. That's why we don't, we can't lean on our feelings.
Right? Cause it's like, uh, everything you mentioned, fear of leaving home or comfort. It's all centered in the emotions. It's all centered to that. And that's why we can't lean on them. We have to surrender that to the Lord. When it comes to, to that specific question that she's saying, I think there's one more point worth mentioning because you don't try to answer it a very broader sense for so that it would apply to most listeners. But there's one more thing I would add. If God is calling you to a missionary to be a missionary, to be a pastor, a youth pastor to be a, something in the full-time ministry. Let me tell you something. It's a calling. It's not a choice. So for our listeners specifically, let me tell you one advice that when it's God calling, it's not going to go away. It's only going to grow. When it's really God calling you to a ministry. It's not something that's just gonna be a momentary feeling and fleeting, fleeting emotion that, oh, I wish I, maybe this is something I want to do. It's going to be something that's going to be nagging at you and nagging at you and nagging at you. And you going to, that's going to be part of how you're going to know it's God's will for you because it won't go away no matter what your home life is going through. No matter what changing seasons come. It's kind of keep coming up and keep coming up, keep coming up because it's God, won't leave you alone. And then this is another thing I wanted to throw out there. I don't know if all the ministers listening might agree, but when normally when someone approaches a Pastor, which to Ester's point, you know, we need to ask someone to walk with us. When it comes to ministry most times pastors will try to discourage you from it. And the reason is because of that, cause that's sort of like, if it's not for you, you should not be in it. And if it is for you, no matter what the pastor says, you're still going to have that nagging feeling of wanting to give yourself over to that ministry. Because it's very important that when it comes to being a pastor, a missionary, a full-time, whatever thing in ministry, it's not a profession choice, it's a calling. And then you have to make sure it's God's will, or else you're going to be miserable in the ministry.
Ester: I just wanted to add really quick. I don't know the situation of this person, but if they're saying serving in the local church or missionary, you should be serving in the local church. I don't know if that's, if that's a situation or not, because then usually, you know, connected to what Pastor was saying, God uses pastors to be like, Hey, so-and-so part of the calling, right? Uh, to use other people. If this person is not connected to their local church, that's like the bootcamp sort of, right. Like that's where you develop your gifts and talents and you know, other people around you the leaders may see the calling before you do sometimes.
Pastor Luis: But that's a great observation right there. Cause you're mentioning something that we really well, something that we know for sure everybody should be serving in the local church, but what this person might be struggling with is if God, did God called me to serve to this passion, I feel for serving the Lord, is it meant to be in the local church as a lay person, as a Sunday school teacher, as a youth worker or whatever, or is God calling me to be a missionary, you know that's the part where that's a specific will part, you know, that not everyone's called to missions field, and that's has to be something that, you know, for, for sure God is calling you. And, and like I said, most of the time, that's how God will do it in your life. Um, for me, that's how it's been. God always calls me to things I don't want, but then he doesn't leave me alone about them. So then that's where I know, okay, that's that's as. Will you know? And I know it's it's his calling on, on me and, and usually that's how then he will prove to your, your obedience, your trust in him. And then he will guide you to match your feelings, to, to match his, his will for you. Cause feelings do count. I mean, they do count, but they just have to be surrendered to the Lord so he can change them so that then you can enjoy what he's calling you to. So you can be happy in what you're doing, you know, and, and not the other way around when you're just being led by what you think is going to make you happy and then just to find out it's empty, a void, or like Solomon would say vanity of vanities, you know, like air trying to capture the wind. So that's my, my advice. And I thank you so much to the listener for this awesome question.
Derrick: Yeah, I agree. Thank you for this awesome question. It's uh, it's something I can definitely look into for myself. It's definitely something that more people, definitely more people are out there who are trying to figure out this question. So, yeah, we'd like to thank you again. And if you have, if any other listeners they have your own, you have your own question that you want to ask. Please go ahead and ask it. We have a website and we have a form on the website. The website is www.ibbvn.org/deeperroots. There, you can find a form and you can also find where else we also are streaming our podcast, whether it's YouTube or Spotify or Apple Podcasts, just take a look there see which one is most convenient for you wherever you want it, go ahead and listen. So we want to thank you again. We hopefully can, hopefully you'll hear from us next next week. And the next, next episode. Thank you.
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